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Godotornot's avatar

Fun read. But how can the Honky Konger miss the fact that Madame Sontag would hurl racial abuse at you for categorising her as caucasian. It is the QQ you know....she is a quaker. LOL.

Simeon Sanchez's avatar

Nice to see a Hong Konger showing concern for my people. It's mutual in that I'm also concerned about young Hong Kongers suffering under the severe educational feudalism imposed by their parents. I think Asians (and the global South) have gotten plenty from whites and should wish our continued existence.

Shrinking Violet's avatar

thanks for appreciating the many fine qualities, and eccentricities, of white people. as a white person myself, i find it refreshing to hear it in these hate-whitey times. but you are missing a key point. white-looking people can be Jewish, like Susan Sontag, and when they are, they use this deceptive appearance to "hide in plain sight" and do everything in their power to demoralize white people, undermine white institutions/values, and persuade whites to stop reproducing and hand over their care and resources to parasitic people of color instead of to their own offspring. hence the much-quoted "cancer of the earth" bit of hate-speech. much that is going wrong with white people and their nations nowadays is directly attributable to the malign influence of Jews. why? well, one reason is they can't forgive us for being Christian. but they also regard all gentiles as livestock, so there's that.

Aaa's avatar

Not fully true. Many Jews do not care about this matter at all, just as many white Gentiles do not. Those who are motivated by “anti-white hatred,” such as some people in the ADL, usually hold this position because of the paranoia that every form of white nationalism somehow inevitably leads to another Holocaust.

From one point of view, Jewish people are said to be prone to mental health issues at higher rates than Gentiles, which some might argue partially explains this paranoia. However, many white nationalists have also historically been obsessed with Jews, at least since Hitler’s time, interpreting any significant problem in their lives through this lens. Obviously, people are going to oppose such ideas.

As for the claim that Jews “hate whites for being Christian” or “hate Gentiles,” it does not make much sense. Why would Jews not then try to destroy Black people? Many sub-Saharan Africans are Christian, and all of them are Gentiles.

You also completely let Christians off the hook. Many “Christian Democratic” parties in Europe advocated bringing in migrants, and plenty of Catholic charities were involved in similar efforts. It looks like you want to reduce a complex world — where migration-related problems also exist in countries with no Jews in positions of power, such as Spain or South Korea — to one-dimensional thinking and scapegoating.

Alexander of Miletus's avatar

Another good definition of Whiteness (if you’re willing to do some reading) is from The Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler. To cut a long story very short, he says that White/Western/WIERD culture (he calls it Faustian, you get used to it), is based a unique conception of infinite continuous space as the ground of all reality, and a very strong sense of history and destiny. It’s a long read, and not for the faint of heart, but it changed how I looked at everything about myself and my culture.

James Garahan's avatar

Especially look at Spengler’s thoughts on the relationship of culture and mathematics

Judi Heppner's avatar

Whiteness discourse is a supreme example of only analyzing the negative part of a phenomenon and completely ignoring the positive. It contains knowledge, but not a fullness of knowledge.

Nevermind the Molochs's avatar

That was different.

I have long suspected that the WEIRDness highlighted in that paper re unreplicable "science" might have been one of those revelation of the method planted pieces. Like Cass Sunstein's Conspiracy Theory theory.

Knowing how to manipulate the WEIRDs is really all you needed to have a nice deep buffer layer of virtue signalling sheep swamping the professional managerial class.

Until the algorithms sweep them and their matchas away

The Canny Man's avatar

Thanks for that

Love the tone

As a white bloke in HK for 30 years it’s interesting to watch the place change now, culturally changing in front of our eyes.

Beer in Kowloon is always possible

Alex Nowrasteh's avatar

This piece is several years out of date.

Lap Gong's avatar

I would be glad to read your critique of my piece. I'd also like to know what you think white people and whiteness are, given your expertise.

Alex Nowrasteh's avatar

I don’t have a critique other than that this piece should have been published about five years ago.

Lap Gong's avatar

I disagree. Even though "wokeness" has subsided since 2020-21, you cannot deny that huge swathes of educated/left leaning america are prejudiced against white people (especially white conservatives and white republicans). Given that Trump has exhausted his credibility with the Iran War, it is not unimaginable for these sentiments to become more mainstream in the future. That is why this article is still timely.

Alex Nowrasteh's avatar

You’re writing for an audience that loves to feel victimized. There’s market demand and you’re filling it, but it’s a shrinking market and I’m just telling you that. You may not want it to shrink, but it is and will for at least the next several years if not longer.

Lap Gong's avatar

I would be happy for my “audience” (I don’t get paid for this, this comes out of my own pocket) to no longer love feeling victimized. There are lots of other things that I could write about, I just wrote about a trip to southern England. I’d really love your opinion on that piece.

If there are any growing audiences that you feel need be catered to, I’d love your recommendation.